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Sounds like something that we might aim for when Neutron is not only a tech demo anymore.

What do you want to do with Python? For actual shading it is way to slow, thats why specialised shading languages exist.

For now Neutron is a Tech demo, not a feature. There is no plan to create a nodes only workflow for Cinema 4D, the final goal is a new Cinema 4D based on the Neutron core but with a high level workflow that inherits all the good traits from classic Cinema 4D.

What Adrien said. Like Hrvoje i am very much looking forward to the announcement.

Hi, while i agree that some things could have made clearer by MAXON, the biggest problems i percieved came from people interpreting what was said in a much more negative way than we ever expected and spreading that opinion as truth. That is the biggest reason why i try to clarify things. I see what information you see missing and to be honest i think we just never gave the situation much thought and missed it, since the initial introduction of subscription was a so much larger hurdle. In cases like that i can only hope customers give sales a ring and double check until we come around fixing things. The very little extra money we would make from people ordering incorrectly due to missing or wrongly interpreted information is not worth any kind of trouble to our users, there simply is no intention by us behind this. The other side of the problem is that due to the many different ways licenses were handled before it is not at all simple to cover every situation without spreading even more insecurity. Again i hope that everyone who does not think his or her case matches the available options gets in contact with sales. From what i see people here and on other forums often simply underestimate the amount of work and the complexity of changing everything so we can offer subscription and multiple versions per year. It is just a huge pile of work and mistakes are easy to make. If in doubt about what we are doing, please keep one thing in mind, yes, we want your money (after all we are a business and personaly i like my paycheck to be on time), but we are in the business of creating tools and to stay in business we want you to use these tools to make money for as long and as good as possible. Cheers Björn

The confusion was regarding 21 not 22

I read your posting that after switching from perpetual to subscription you couldn’t use 21 anymore, something that is clearly stated differently in the MAXON shop. This part Reads as if you expected to have to pay full subscription price for S22 to be able to use R21. If you had referred to perpetual instead of simply R21 the meaning would have been clear.

Writing into the application folder is a huge nogo under Windows 10. Either use the prefs folder or any ohte ruser controlled folder. Windows does keep tight reins on appliaction installations to prevent malware attacks.

In that case you don't have the old R21 perpetual license anymore, but you DO have access to R21. The subscription includes access to it.

Can you please provide a source for this?

I have been active on Cinema 4D forums for 20 years now and while i hope for feedback and thank you i stopped expecting it a long time ago. That said, i refuse to answer questions in PMs, if the question and answer can not be made public then ask MAXON support or any other paid service. I answer questions not because of the person but because of the community. This is effectively the same reason why i usually refrain from large individual efforts if the outcome is not to the advantage of the community. I do it though if it helps someone i know to be helpful themself A pet grievance of mine is OPs to post an "i got it working" answer without even a hint as to what they did to make it work. To me the main reason for forums like C4D Cafe to exist is to share knowledge and help each other. Selfishness should not be rewarded.

This is the first time i have ever heard of a problem like that. Did you check with MAXON support?

I tried to check if the rewrites are comparable but had a bit of a hard time. It seems that 2.5 and 2.8 were indeed huge steps, but from all i was able to gather they do not compare to what si did, Newtek was trying and MAXON is currently doing. Though major portions of blender were overhauled the fundamental structure seems to have stayed. Many similar operations have been done on Cinema 4D over time, but due to the different way things were done it wasn't as visible. I would not call that a core rewrite or at least not one comparable to what birthed XSI and what MAXON is working on. Also please do not get me wrong, i actually don't see this as a negative, it speaks well for the fundamental architecture of Blender.

They don't call me Dorian Marl for nothing 😉 The scene was done in a demo version so i think the OP is just trying things out.

The file was created in R21. R16 does not even have a sample node, fields came later.

On a different but related note, i tried to send you a pm on this, but it said i can't send because my box is full, which it isn't. Maybe a problem on your side?

I think you are mixing this up with Beta options.

Just to clear a few things up. The new viewport is all about replacing the core technology of the viewport with something more modern that allows for future additions and improvements the old system did not allow for. At this time the biggest goal was compatibility to modern hardware and OS, where OGL is not as prominent and available as it was in the past. As is welll known the main viewport speed hindrance is not the viewport but the object system, thus the new viewport can only be faster in specific situations, like the instances. There are several improvements regarding display quality, but over all we were aiming for at least feature parity. The big difference is that the old viewport was at the end of its lifetime, while the new one is at its beginning. That also means we will have to iron out a few things over time. Like the new modeling core the new viewport is one of the many steps we are taking towards the future of Cinema 4D.

I can only refer to what Dave said in earlier threads on this, the upgrade price for perpetual licenses will be in the same range as before.

Perpetual licenses stay, later this year another release will happen for wich upgrades for perpetual owners are possible. It will contain all features of S22 and new stuff.

The reference was regarding the modeling core, which is in itself an important part of the much bigger core change. All modeling tools have been switched over to this new modeling core. This brings better speed and functional improvements, but also better UV handling.

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Generally you don't. They are only machine readable. Think of them as "preinterpreted" for faster loading. You can try one of the online decompilers available, but i would not bet on good code quality.

I literlay mean oily essence, orange oil or whatever floats your boat. Not for any kind of healing but to prevent the skin from drying out completely. Gylcol is an option as well.

Use the Scotch to make some of the stupid antics of our leaders bearable and for sanitation use Isopropanol/Rubbing Alcohol @90% with a hint of essential oils.