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I do wonder how many of these crashes people complain about are just the current realities of gpu based render engines all being less stable than their cpu counterparts due to endlessly changing gpu drivers. How much is c4d itself being unstable vs redshift being the new standard render engine. 99% of my crashes are octane. Even if redshift is a fraction of that, it could still be the main reason,

Blender feels like the wild wild west with cheap or free addons which helps blender tremendously, but you have to spend a bit of time getting them to work with each other and blender. Not to mention the bugs introduced with the addons or blender itself. You also spend time trying to figure out why your hotkeys changed only to realize it was an addon that changed settings without your knowledge. Oh yeah, and the more addons you get the more you have to maintain as many are updated quite often. On the flip side, there are some solid addons for a good price or free which really helps out. Some C4D plugin developers could learn a about setting reasonable pricing for plugins or collections. Some want almost as much for their collection than the price of the C4D sub itself. I know I'll probably get blasted by saying it on this forum, but lurking on Twitch, Youtube and X I see the same sentiment regarding these unnamed plugin devs. C4D isn't getting any cheaper! 😛 I still can't see using Blender from start to finish on most projects. Some of Blender is just too damn irritating. I look forward to seeing what Maxon does with R2025 too. I'd love to see Maxon actively look at what other apps and plugins are doing and why people are using them. What makes them so powerful? Then look at adopting some of those features or concepts to C4D. For instance, Light Control addon for Blender does a great job solving how to go into an editing mode for a specific light and using hotkeys to adjust various parameters like brightness, orbit, distance, temperature , angle and more. After you are done, left mouse click to get out of editing that light. Such a simple concept. https://blendermarket.com/products/light-control

angle_between_two_vectors.c4d

This helper plugin will generate a circle spline from 3 input geometry objects. There are no additional parameters. Note that circle is generated on XY plane and works only in 2D Requirements: Cinema version 2024+ is required Registered members can find it in the store https://www.core4d.com/ipb/store/product/49-3-point-circle/