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FFS, read what I said. I said that I didn't see the need for Maxon to focus on developing one themselves, and it's not high on the list of stuff Maxon needs to tidy up in C4D, as there are so many areas of C4D that have been left in the cupboard for years. We all know what they are. So I don't think Maxon needs to develop their own real-time renderer like Unreal has. There's a perfectly good real-time renderer available to everyone which I gather is getting a lot of traction and use in the film industry. It's called Unreal Engine and Maxon have a whole page up mentioning how they're continuing to improve C4D's integration with it. https://www.maxon.net/en/cinema-4d/features/unreal-integration I think I'd rather Maxon keep developing C4D, and also keep improving their integration with Unreal Engine, rather than spending their development resources trying to create a separate real-time renderer that competes with Unreal Engine. If I get really keen on real time rendering I'll probably (a) make sure I have a rig that can handle Unreal Engine, and then (b) spend time learning Unreal Engine, plus whatever integration methods work best with C4D (after I resub) rather than waiting around hoping that Maxon will develop their own real-time renderer designed to compete with whatever the Unreal Engine development budget has come up with. Unreal Engine is great and it will keep getting greater in 2025, 2026 and 2027. Meanwhile C4D's character rigging could use improvement, C4D can't do fluids yet, and C4D's Bodypaint is older than some of the women I see in Melbourne pushing around kids in baby strollers. So I think Maxon should probably sort a few of those issues out first before they try to develop a brand new real-time renderer designed to compete with Unreal Engine's place in the film production market.

Yeah. No offence but Tbh a real-time renderer is the last thing I'm personally thinking of when I consider the fat list of stuff Maxon need to fix, tidy up, add or redo with C4D to sort out the years of inattention certain areas of the program have suffered from. But they're clearly on the way finally.

the problem with real time rendering is that it will never match what unreal engine does. not because c4d isnt capable of doing such thing, it’s just that DCCs arent built the way game engines are built. the reason why unreal engine is so fast is because of the amount of viewport optimizatios it does to get rendering at that speed. these optimizations wouldnt work for a DCC, where accurate data is needed. for example, unreal, just like almost every other game engine of old, does insane amounts of LOD optimizations, eliminating alot of geometry data for performance gains. mesh shading is another use of this… combine with a bunch of other optimizations in the viewport and other areas, unreal can get those speeds. but these types of optimizations dont work well for any DCC because loss of data is not a good thing for a program where data is needed to operate on for modeling/animation/simulations. game engines are always built to look ‘good enough’. DCCs are built to look accurate. therefore, c4d cant truly compete with the real time market. its not its purpose and a market thats not really needed imo… techincally, if maxon wanted, they could make c4d into unreal more than any other DCC. it has directx12. and directx12 supports mesh shading… c4d also has multi instancing, which unreal uses a similar tech to make high geo environments… the tech is there, but the purpose is not…

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that's still a losing battle for c4d. there is no point on spending development time and resources on something that a billion or trillion dollar corporation like Epic is going to do way better than anyone else. They are focused on the real time market and pretty much are winning in that department. What you're asking for is the equivalent of when autodesk thought that integrating sculpting tools from mudbox into maya would actually compete against zbrush, failing to realise that part of what makes zbrush great is how fast its 'viewport' implementation is and how it can handle millions of polygons through its optimizations. Maya can't have that work for its viewport because sculpting has different requirements. Just because other DCCs are attempting to include real time rendering natively, doesnt make it a good decision for cinema4D. Rather than fomo'ing and chasing industry trends, Maxon is better off coming up with its own set of creative ideas to give it a unique place in the market. Things that other programs like unreal and blender cant provide well enough... Also improving on what c4d already does really well is way better than chasing some industry trend. As for blender being able to imitate close to unreal. 'Close' is not good enough. Unreal is winning that side of things and blender can add it without much fear of losing anything if it falls short.

Today I was fooling around in the new release and the possibilites are certainly mind-boggling. Here's a particle stream that drives a volume builder which is displaced at rendertime for super-fine detail. Nothing special, but it was super-fun to make... and it plays in the viewport in the 20-30 fps range, which is very fine 🙂

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Paul established a US-based entity for Maxon, to serve North and South America and introduced Cinema 4D to The Americas in 1998, His initiatives included strategic partnerships with industry-leading production studios and design firms, along with orchestrating product bundles with Adobe After Effects and Apple Final Cut Pro. Paul's leadership and strategic planning played a pivotal role in Maxon's unprecedented growth. Today, Cinema 4D stands out as one of the fastest-growing and widely-used 3D products for digital content creation. He takes pride in being part of a team that facilitated the emergence of 3D in the motion graphics industry. In 2016, Paul was honored with the Studio Daily 50 award, recognizing influential creatives and technologists. Known for his creative energy, customer service advocacy, and support for training and education, Paul is often invited to speak at industry events, particularly on the subject of motion graphics. Describe yourself in a single word Enabler (the good kind 🙂 ) How did you get into C4D/ Maxon and 3D in general? In the early 90’s I got my first job in the 3D industry – marketing managerfor ElectricImage (a 3D animation product on Mac). This was in the early days of 3D. I was there for a few years (learned a lot about the industry, artists and studios). They were purchased by the company Play (wellknown for the Snappy). Play was formed by former marketing people from Newtek. I was pretty sure my position was redundant, so, I went back into freelance marketing. Maxon started out as one of those freelance jobs. Which area interests you most? Facilitating, inspiring, motivating and helping creatives be successful in achieving their vision. What other apps are you using and what for? I assume this question is more geared towards artists. How about I tell you one of the things I find really interesting out there? I think Rive (https://rive.app/) is an extremely innovative and unique new offering and a significant breakthrough in the creation of real time vector graphics. At its core, Rive is a new graphics format. Rive graphics are not just static; they can be animated, interactive, and functional. The format and its players are open source so designers can create interactive content forproducts, apps, websites, and games - and Rive runs anywhere (web,iOS, Android, Windows, Unreal, Unity, C++, etc.). A huge advantage is how greatly it speeds up workflow by reducing designer-developer handoff. Which learning resources you used and would recommend? This forum of course, Cineversity, of course! School of Motion, Linkedin Learning, and YouTube/Google searches for anything useful. Do you think talent is overrated and can be offset with a lot of hard work? I’ve always felt there were two types of 3D animators and digital artists ingeneral - those who are naturally artistic and less technical, and those who are more technical with less artistic background. We used to call it right and left brained, (but I’ve recently read some scientists call that a fallacy). And there are those amazing exceptions – the people who seem to have both artistic “talent” and an innate understanding of technology. Talent is an intrinsic skill (as in something that comes natural to you). But it is a skill. So yes, I do think those not born with it can develop artistic sensibility. Your best advice for newcomers, tip or trick to pick up regarding marketing and industry? Create. Even with talent, nothing comes without practice and execution. Create what you love, what inspires you. Be inspired by others. Inspire others. Thoughts on AI? Artists worrying about how AI is going to affect the industry and their careers is completely understandable. But it cannot be ignored. It’s here and it’s not going away. The best thing to do is figure out how it canultimately serve and empower you. Part of being a creative professional is adapting to what is thrown at you, whether it be a client’s desires or technology advancements. Top 3 wishes for C4D a. That it will continue to humbly serve the artistic community. b. That it will continue to innovate and impact the industry. c. That it will be remembered as having a positive impact on the industry and secure a place in design history. Message for Core4D Stay positive, stay passionate and keep the community spirit. Tell us something we could not possibly know about you but you find important or funny : ) In my early 20’s I was an actor. I did mostly stage musicals, but I did doone film. I was a pirate in the movie Hook. I was also in the Hook Coke commercial – like everything else it can still be found on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUIAPbXevaA For fun, I still perform in a band with my buddy and my daughter https://thelaurelcanyonband.com/ Plans after a long journey with Maxon? Clear my head, look out into the horizon of the industry and get a good idea of what’s happening in the industry and where it’s going. Hopefully, I will find something where I can focus my passion and energy. Yes, I am actually looking for a job (it’s been rumored I am retiring – no way!! I have too much energy left.) – hopefully, it will besomewhere in the industry. This industry is my family. Also, some exciting news. This week I've accepted an invitation to be an Advisor for the team at Rive. It’s not a job. I took an advisory position for a product I think has a tremendous amount of potential in the interactive design industry. I encourage everyone to check it out. Really innovative and fun. If people want to contact you https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulbabb/