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Well....by deprived do you mean loss of Cineversity? True that hurt but let me ask you this, how many improvements have they made to Advanced Render since MAXON purchased Redshift in 2019? I think there is more user manipulation going on than just withholding Cineversity. I think the perfect world for MAXON is that every users moves over to a subscription for ALL their products. That is why they came out with MAXON One. All the incentives are moving in that direction with negative incentives (eg. removal of Cineversity, big price increases) for people who choose a different path (eg. perpetual licenses). People are willing to play along with this plan as long as these programs continue to improve with each release either with more features and/or increased stability or power (eg. more object handling, better viewport performance, etc). People intrinsically want to see that they are getting something for their money beyond simply being able to use the program. But what NO ONE thinks about is that at some point in the future, the pace of development will slow down as the programs mature. Then the subscription user begins to ask the questions like "why am I paying $X a year just to use a program this is not improving". I think Adobe users will resonate with this opinion as they have been making these complaints for quite some time now. Unfortunately, Adobe stock continues to rise despite these complaints so while they may be winning financially their user base is extremely upset and complaining as they feel trapped. That is the long term price you are paying for your subscription licenses today. They seem like a great deal now but at some point you will feel the trap of having to continually pay for something you do not feel justifies the cost. Dave