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All, With all due apologies to the Daniel Sterckx (Dast in the Forums) and the moderators, I thought I would put in a plug for PolyDup from Tools & Pixels. A very handy plugin for mesh creation and my personal favorite: greebling. I had no idea it was released back in July as the only notification on the Cafe was this post from Daniel at the end of a 4 page thread. What is especially sad is that Daniel is closing the site for various reasons. IMHO, this is a loss to the C4D community. On the plus side he is having a 50% off sale on all of his products: PolyGnome, PolyDup, Seamilar, Dials and EasyUV. All these plugins only support up to R21. Thanks, Dave Full Disclosure: I am just a satisfied customer of Tools & Pixels and in no way affiliated with the site or its developer. I just hate to see talented programmers not get rewarded and having to close shop.

I kinda do remember that, but not where to find it alas ! CBR

It's a very different world now with the accessibility and affordability to high-end 3D tools. I think it was Jops (or you, or both of you) posted here that mentioned about capturing people when they're first trying out 3D software. Years ago the cracked software route was the entry point. Now with the likes of Blender, DaVinci Resolve, Krita give a completely free end-to-end workflow it must be putting some pressure on major companies. Even Nuke is offering an Indie license although I heard it's pretty restrictive. Right now it's a good time to be a hobbyist in the 3D world but there's a high cost to be a hobbyist in the MAXON world. If I had a wife, kids and a car I don't think I'd even have a café account, never mind a C4D perpetual license.

You beat me to it. I was just about to create a topic, explaining the whole thing. Arrrgh ... man, you just ruined my dramatic intro 🤣 OK, joking aside. Hello, my name is Daniel. I am the user on this forum formerly known as "C4DS". When I joined the forum back in 2005, I only recently had purchased Cinema4D (R9 at that time). Next to being a proud owner of the software, I also was proud of joining and being part of 3DKiwi's community. At that point in time it made perfect sense to have a username reflecting what I was proud of ... and it made me especially feel "clever" to having found a way to include my initials. (Yep, it's those small things that makes a person happy) Over the years I grew fond of that username, while to some it might have sounded cheesy. Obviously, I also grew fond of the software, although it had its quirks and flaws. After using the software for over 10 years as a hobby user, I started to feel I was missing some functionality and ventured into the world of plugin development. Soon, I realized other people could benefit from the small plugins I created. And it could also turn out to be a way to fund the yearly Cinema4D upgrades. So, I started a business. Not to become a gold digger, nor make a living out of it, as there is not much money to be made from this niche market. For me it was just enough to be able to upgrade to next release of Cinema4D. Anyway, times have changed. R21 hit the shelves, together with the nasty s-word announcement. Plugin sales dropped significantly ... and a pandemic on top of that really didn't help. Then came S22, and now R23. All these new features included are definitely heaven-sent, you don't hear me saying the opposite. But for perpetual users, just like myself, losing the MSA and seeing an upgrade price almost doubled ... Carrying the username "C4DS" just didn't feel right anymore. I wasn't feeling proud about that software like I used to. That in combination with the current financial burden. While it was a difficult decision to make, leaving all beloved plugin customers in the cold, I decided to stop the business. I will try to keep it running until the end of this year. Hence the closeout sale I am having right now, hoping to be able to break even. As Dave was kind enough to already provide the link to the closeout-sale in his message, I will not repeat it here. Just note that the plugins are compatible with R16 - R21, as at this point in time I cannot afford to upgrade to R23 ... and to make it clear, I am not looking forward to, how nice the new features may be. For clarity, I will keep using my R20 license. I am not looking to jump ship for another 3D software (not right now at least). I might still continue to develop plugins for my own usage. I am personally not in a financial dip, I am doing fine. It's only the business which isn't running anymore. From now on, I am just a regular user, a hobby user, going by the username "dast". Thanks for reading.

I've actually found out that I needed an 'Object Index' and a 'Link List' to populate the cloner's object mode reference, as well as other instances. So that's working now!! 😁 Now I am stuck at finding out how to match a string to an object name to populate the instance that the cloner is cloning. But that's probably a whole other subject 😅