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I've been experimenting with juggling - here's my 1st attempt here's the math - uses memory nodes so doesn't settle down until > 100F juggle.c4d

That is correct, as per Maxons official FAQ post.

I was pretty shocked to see Maya and Max costing 170 per month, that is 3 cinema licenses. Shuddering imagining paying that for max. From our studio the only thing I noticed is that there is really no "greener grass", cinema definitely has a lot of strong upsides others can not match well right now but clearly a lot of weak sides as well. Maybe if you are an char animator or something very specialized then maya could be better but overall as package I heavily doubt it. There really is no best 3D app overall, far from it.

Those of you who already bought it will have received your update links earlier today, but thought I'd do a general post to reiterate the ongoing brilliance of the HB Modelling bundle scripts, and the continued support and development of them by Holger, who must be something of hero to the modelling world by now 🙂 Certainly his scripts have made my job as principally a modeller in Cinema considerably faster, easier and more rewarding on a day-to-day basis ever since I first bought the kit for R11.5, and I would like to take this opportunity to publicly thank the author for supporting and developing it for all this time at no additional charge, which is both rare, welcome and very much 'above and beyond' in this day and age... If you don't already have it, and are remotely serious about modelling in Cinema, I still can't recommend this plugin enough. Features like Quad-capping, Even distribution, Surface-preserving Points to Circle, Surface-preserving Relax Mesh, Straighten Edges, Smooth edge, and the fabulous Re-topo setup continue to be real winners that make a genuine every-day difference to using Cinema as your principal modelling program. 60+ additional scripts are similarly useful, making this tool kit exceptional value for money. More info available below... https://helloluxx.com/product/hb-modellingbundle-for-cinema-4d/ Happy modellings everyone, and thanks again Holger for the inspirational work ! CBR

Finally had some muse again and did a "quick" random artwork.