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So.....tomorrow is the "MAXON 3D & Motion Design Show: The Siggraph Edition" with the Mr. McGavran kicking off the show with: "some exciting announcements and a few sneak peeks at the future of MAXON products" and not one thread about what to expect in the next release in the Cafe? Did I miss something? If I did not miss something and there really is complete silence, then could it be due to one or more of the following? We don't expect anything different than what has already been announced in S22. We finally got an update to the UV editing system in S22!!! Anything after that is anti-climatic. We have no further expectations so there is no point in speculating. We realize that speculation is pointless...so why bother. We will get what we get....so just wait for it. Mr. McGavran's R21 Siggraph presentation spun the room with the announcement of subscriptions which was the bulk of his presentation. As such, we don't remember that presentation for its feature discussion because we were all in denial. Based on that experience, which was a shock to everyone's system, we are fearful of what he has to say this year and therefore don't want to talk about it. In short, we still have PTSD. Usually by now we would have a 3 page thread going with everyone pitching in their hopes and dreams. In that discussion, which can switch from civil to nasty with one post, there would be: The usual list of features covering the same areas of the program in need of an update. Some really valid points being made about features we never knew we needed. Arguments raging over why do we have to wait so long for much needed features - including those we never knew we needed until they were mentioned in the thread. A well timed post from 3D-Kiwi about life after MAXON. Predictions over MAXON's future which only generates more controversy. At least two threats from the moderators threatening to shut the thread down if tempers continue to escalate. A few posts from brave MAXON employee's trying to be the voice of reason. ....hmmm.....maybe the silence is better. Dave

I’ve said this before I really hope this new core, nodes , and Red giant merger and redshift acquisition are will lead to making a MAXON Compositor.

I guess I understand what you mean, but even something as generic as: - Fixed modeling issues related to making cuts using the Line Cut tool. ..., would be far more helpful than: - Fixed several modeling issues ..., by being at least somewhat specific about the tool, tools, or modeling actions that are affected by the fix. That's all I'm saying...

For now Neutron is a Tech demo, not a feature. There is no plan to create a nodes only workflow for Cinema 4D, the final goal is a new Cinema 4D based on the Neutron core but with a high level workflow that inherits all the good traits from classic Cinema 4D.

What Adrien said. Like Hrvoje i am very much looking forward to the announcement.