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wow... that's a bit of an exaggeration i'd say 🙂 Even though MAXON is trying to scare away its old customers at the moment, it is one of the most successful 3D packages on the market. I have worked with animation nodes and at the moment, like many things in Blender, it is technically very interesting, but all in all not nearly as easy to use as Cinema. Blender is on the right track and if they keep it up it is not impossible that quite some alienated C4D users will switch to blender in the future. But at the moment I personally prefer Cinema for production than Blender. But if everything continues to develop as it has, MAXON should either speed up its development significantly or at least not scare away its customers.

Glad I jumped ship when I did. I would expect to get S22 if I had an active MSA. There doesn't seem to be a lot of goodwill extended to existing and longtime users. Out of interest I looked at how much it would cost me to get back into Cinema 4D on a subscription plan. From the Australian Adimex site that covers my region for an annual subscription plan price is 737 Euros or $798 US. Modo's annual subscription plan is $629 US. They also still sell perpetual licences which is what I have. I pay $419 US per year for the maintenance plan that gives me all updates. That's recently gone up from $399 US. Nigel / 3DKiwi

That is how it is supposed to be, as you payed them upfront. Sounds much more logical then charging those that already gave you a lot of money more then those that didn't.

Anyone want to chip in and buy Dave McG some bedtime reading... 😉

Not sure if that would hold up in a court of law and I hope it does not come down to that. No one needs a class action suit at this time. Just because they called it "S"22 does not make it a completely different type of software than R22. Remember that what separates the perpetual licenses from the subscription licenses has more to do with the license server and NOT the software itself. They updated the software so it should be in scope per the wording of the MSA. While I am not a lawyer, I would certainly hope that our copy-write laws are bit more stringent in their definition of unique work. If they were that flimsy to accept that S22 is a fundamentally different work than R22, then I could simply re-sell MAXON Cinema 4D as "Saxon Seenema 5D" and not get arrested for copy-write infringement. Probably not the best example, but you get my point. Other things in play is the post COVID-19 economy. While the US government is trying to help businesses keep employees with free payroll subsidies, those subsidies do NOT help out with lease costs (building, equipment, etc). So any DCC company with less than 3 months operating cash reserve is going to suffer as their building and equipment lease costs could exceed their payroll costs. Plus demand for those services drop as production companies shift schedules out and payroll subsidies will not last forever. So MAXON's customer base will be strained in the coming months. Fighting over the interpretation of service agreements with that user base will hurt not help MAXON. Stepping up an helping people impacted by COVID-19 is the better play. Goodwill always goes a long way. Dave

That must e a joke. It would cost them much more to f... around with old customers and damage their reputation, then to give them access to just this one update. I hardly can believe that this is legal anyway (It is obviously an update to Cinem 4D R21, they don't even deny that). Man ... other companies spend Millions to puff up their reputation and MAXON is just throwing it away for penuts. that is not just unfair but plainly stupid. How is anybody suposed to trust them in the future? As much I like the new way of MAXON to stick around in forums. I really think that this pretentious fuss like if MAXON was Adobe does more harm than good. If I was in this situation I would pull all strings to make it known in the whole 3d community. That just doesn't feel honest.